A Monumental Afternoon

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We’re in Amboise in front of the Church of Saint Denis, waiting for our friends Susan and Simon from Days on the Claise. We’re here for a purpose. Susan wants to see some artworks in the church that she has heard about. It’s extremely cold so we go inside and wander around. It’s quite dark and gloomy and I don’t notice anything very interesting.

Collegiate Church of Saint Denis, Amboise, 12th century

Collegiate Church of Saint Denis, Amboise, 12th century

Susan and Simon arrive with Antoinette from Chez Charnizay who is also interested in art. Our mutual friends Janet and Antoine who live in Amboise also join up with us. Susan takes us over the other side of the church in front of a group of statues called a Mise au tombeau which means emtombment and refers to the emtombment of Christ. I wonder why I didn’t notice it the first time.

Mise au tombeau

16th century Mise au tombeau

Susan and Antoinette start discussing the different people in the group. It was common practice for patrons of the art at the time – we’re talking about the 16th century here – to be depicted as historical and religious figures.   A man called Philibert Babou, Treasurer to François I, commissioned the group of eight life-sized figures in painted limestone. It is believed that the figures are members of the Babou family.

Mary of Clopas and Nicodemus

Mary of Clopas and Nicodemus

For people who know their religious history, the identity of the original characters should not pose a problem : Joseph of Arimathea, St Veronica, St John the Evangelist, the Virgin Mary, St Mary Magdelene, Mary of Clopas and Nicodemus. However, Susan is very curious about the fact that Mary Magdelene seems to be wearing a crown. Surely the Virgin Mary should be wearing it? Mary is thought to be Marie Gaudin, Philibert’s wife, who would have been about 50 at the time and was considered in her youth to be one of the most beautiful women  of her time. She even had an affair with François I some 30 years earlier.

The Virgin Mary and Mary Magdelene

The Virgin Mary and Mary Magdelene

Antoinette also points out the clothes they are wearing, such as the ornate turban and flowing garments with their liberal gold trimming. Large amounts of fabric indicate greater wealth. The oriental look is typical of the sixteenth century.  The headgear in general is very indicative of status. Mary Magdelene, who has the finest features and most intricate garments of the people depicted, is in fact wearing a gilded headdress and not a crown. Susan finally comes to the conclusion that “the message might be that anyone can come to God and it need not interfere with you looking gorgeous or showing off your assets”.

Joseph of Arimathea, St Veronica, St John the Evangelist and the Virgin Mary

Joseph of Arimathea, St Veronica, St John the Evangelist and the Virgin Mary

I’m really enjoying myself. Having specialists to point out all these different aspects is far better than a guide book which I soon get bored with ! The two written guides we find in church are not very useful and don’t answer any of our questions. I’m also amazed that they were able to move it to Saint Denis intact from Montlouis further along the river.

Saint John, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdelene and Mary of Clopas

Saint John, the Virgin Mary, Mary Magdelene and Mary of Clopas

We take a closer look at the reclining figure on the right. It’s Mary Magdalen with a book in her hand and a box of perfume. The sculpture was originally in a chapel in Amboise that has now disappeared. I’m surprised to see MM with a book but Susan tells me this is a typical way of depicting women in the 16th century.

Mary Magdelene reclining

Mary Magdelene reclining

We then move onto the sculpture, known as la femme noyée or drowned woman. We all stand around while Susan explains that it is comes from Bon-Désir Chapel in Montlouis and thought to represent a member of the Babou family, perhaps Marie Gaudin who drowned in the Loire. She then says, “but I don’t agree with that”. It’s true that after we take a look at the smooth muscular thighs it’s seems unlikely that the effigy is that of a drowned woman. Susan adds that she thinks it is exactly contemporary with a similar effigy of Catherine de Medici in the Royal Mausoleum in the Basilica of Saint Denis, Paris. “Catherine rejected the first version of hers because it was too emaciated and gruesome, and I suspect a similar sentiment with this one in Amboise.”

Mary Magdelene reclining

Mary Magdelene reclining

What really surprises me is there should still be so much mystery surrounding two artistic works of such calibre. Susan tells me it’s actually quite common and that, if nothing is known about a work of art, it is just ignored in the local guide books! I go back to the Mise au Tombeau and look at more of the details which are quite amazing. Just the draperies could hold my interest for hours.

The drowned woman

The drowned woman

Susan then calls smy attention to another work of art which is part of the altar piece – what can only be a representation of god which, as Susan points out, is most unusual. Only Christ and the Holy Spirit are usually depicted. She later discovers that it is, in fact, the Eternal Father, which corresponds to the first person of the Holy Trinity.

The eternal father on the altarpiece

The eternal father on the altar piece

We end our wonderful afternoon a few kilometers outside Amboise at the Gaulish Oppidum where there is a mud rampart that dates from 400 to 50 BC and a mound called Caesar’s Hill overlooking the surrounding countryside. My only regret is that Susan and Simon live in the south of the Loire, an 90-minute drive from us!

The rampart from Gaulish times built from 400 to 50 BC

The rampart from Gaulish times built from 400 to 50 BC

For more details about the Mise au Tombeau, I strongly recommend that you pop over to Susan’s blog Days on the Claise. She has written a very lively, yet very scholarly account in her usual inimitable fashion.

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17 Responses to A Monumental Afternoon

  1. These are impressive works… I’ve not seen anything like it in a Catholic church here.
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  2. Susan Walter says:

    I’m so glad you enjoyed the visit. It’s a terrific church. By the way, I think it’s quite likely that the ‘drowned woman’ is Marie Gaudin. What I don’t believe is that the effigy is of a drowned woman. I think it is exactly contemporary with a similar effigy of Catherine de Medici in the Royal Mausoleum in the Basilica of Saint Denis, Paris. CdM rejected the first version of hers because it was too emaciated and gruesome, and I suspect a similar sentiment with this one in Amboise.

    I’ve got posts coming up on the Mary Magdelene figure and the ‘drowned woman’ this week.

    Many thanks for the link to my post on the Babou family mise au tombeau.

  3. Lesley says:

    How wonderful to have such a well informed guide.
    On a ‘practical’ note, who would be responsible for the cleaning (week to week) and general upkeep of the statues?

    • Susan Walter says:

      In terms of weekly cleaning the regular cleaner might be allowed to gently swish over them with a ‘feather’ duster style tool. They should not be allowed to wipe them in any way (although I suspect that wouldn’t stop some). The statues are the property of the State and will be inspected annual or as required by a curator or conservator from the Direction Régionale des Affaires Culturelles. Periodically they may be conservation cleaned (using a soft brush and a museum vac). I would recommend annually, but I suspect it doesn’t actually happen.

    • Rosemary Kneipp says:

      It makes such a difference!

  4. Jacqueline says:

    That was very interesting! One thing I was surprised at was that women in the 16th century knew how to read but I assume it is on the upper class women who could read? Also the mud rampart. How did it withstand the march of time, wood and mud????

    • Susan Walter says:

      Middle class and aristocratic mothers were expected to ensure their daughters could read, because of the widely disseminated tradition that Mary was taught to read by her mother Saint Anne. Sensible men ensured their daughters were educated sufficiently to manage the family estates because the men were so often absent. Reading for pleasure was also encouraged, due to the popularity of the chivalric romances, which were used at least partly for teaching practical morals (as opposed to piety) and civilised behaviour.

      • Rosemary Kneipp says:

        Thank you, Susan, for that answer. I didn’t know about the tradition of Mary being taught to read by Anne.
        Jacqueline, I shall have to look into the question of how the rampart was so well preserved. Often these things got buried which preserved them.

  5. Susie Kelly says:

    What a difference it makes to have the benefit of expert knowledge.

    I confess that as a philistine I’d have been bored stiff (and probably frozen too by the sound of it), just looking at statues and effigies. But once you know the story behind them, it becomes really fascinating.
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    • Rosemary Kneipp says:

      I absolutely agree. I’ve been reading the biography of Catarina Sforza in Romagna and can’t wait to go to Forli and see the places she lived in. It will make such a difference knowing the story – just like your Marie-Antoinette bicycle ride.

  6. Anda says:

    It’s interesting that I can’t remember if we visited the Church of Saint Denis in Amboise. These are quite beautiful works of art, I probably wasn’t in this church since I can’t remember them. You have very good light in some of these pictures although it was dark in the church.
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    • Rosemary Kneipp says:

      Anda, you probably didn’t visit it as it is a bit out of the way. We had never seen it before.
      My iPhone does a surprising job sometimes when there isn’t much light but it doesn’t do well with distance, I’m afraid.
      I was sorry I didn’t take more photos of the drowned woman but there was a lot of light reflected on the marble and we all kept casting shadows on it. I’ll have to go back sometime!

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